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Democrat Prez Hopeful Was So Rattled By How Much His Own Plans Cost, He DID THIS!

This is  a very surprising video because usually the media lets Democrats get away with whatever they want to say, but in this case they really pressed Democratic candidate and socialist Bernie Sanders on how much his plans would actually cost!!

Watch below:

WOW! Bernie dropped his coffee cup because it really appears that he’s never been pressed on the actual numbers for his Utopian dream.

But the fact that he can’t even hold on to a coffee cup while defending his tax policies really shows how he doesn’t know what the heck he’s talking about.

Do you agree? Let us know in the comments if you do or not!!

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  • Howard Fisher

    I love how as a senator he’s a socialist but running for president he’s a democrat, but really they are one in the same.

    • georgethorvat

      Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!

      • reagangs

        Obummer and his family and friends were card carrying commies. It has been speculated that Obummer himself was fathered by a fella by the name of Frank Marshall Davis, a hard core commie. Obummer lived with Bill Ayers’ family, card carrying commies, in Chicago while going to school there. Obummer and the Clintons rubbed elbows with the likes of Sal Alinsky (Rules for Radicals) and Cloward and Piven, card carrying commies from the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. So don’t try to tell me he isn’t a commie. His minions from Chicago are commies, those that just love Mao, Ho, the Castro’s and others.

    • cumiadom

      At least DNC Chairwoman Debbie Was-a-man Shultz still doesn’t know what the difference is.

  • Carol Fordonski

    I do NOT agree with your conclusions about Bernie Sanders.

    • Ken V

      What can you expect from a fellow communist. Dang Lesbo…

    • Walter Flatt

      OK, THEN YOU GIVE UP HALF OF YOUR INCOME TO PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT WORK.

      • missythemissmiss

        I don’t think anyone wants half of your income. The proposal is to tax Wall St. transactions and corporations (that often pay little or no taxes). Do you really think it’s fair that you have to pay a tax on your purchases, but the wealthy investors of Wall St. don’t?

        • Jan

          In truth, the US already has the 2nd highest corporate taxes in the world, not to mention the strictest regulations, which is why so many companies are moving their operations overseas.

          • missythemissmiss

            Nice try, but you should turn off Fox News. Most of the big corporations pay little to no taxes. They are leaving to avoid paying WAGES, not taxes.

          • Jan

            Nice try yourself. But that does not explain why here are over 500 American corporations in Ireland, where the minimum wage is higher than most of the states at over $10 an hour. Or the over 900 American companies in Belgium, where the minimum wage is $10.65 an hour. Or the many other companies that have moved to countries with equal or higher minimum wages than the US. While some companies have moved to Mexico or China to take advantage of lower wages, there are hundreds of them who have moved to other countries for the generous corporate tax rates. The corporate tax rate in the US is 40%, in Ireland 12.5%, in Belgium 34%, even in the high tax country of UK 30%. They are not moving to these countries due to their low wages.

          • missythemissmiss

            Can you name those corporations and the rate they paid in taxes? Quoting ambiguous numbers doesn’t tell the whole story. I don’t mind being schooled, if it’s based in fact. Please enlighten me.

          • Jan

            Don’t be so obtuse missy. My reply above tells you how much they pay in taxes in those countries. If you want to know the names of all the American corporations in those countries, you will have to contact them yourself and get them. I will not do ALL the research for you. Get of your lazy liberal butt and do it yourself.

          • missythemissmiss

            How can you post a comment that you have no facts to back up? I sincerely want to know the truth of the matter, because I’m not married to a political party or belief. Turn off Fox News and think for yourself.

          • Jan

            I gave you the facts, which came from statistics from those countries, not from Fox News. You simply don’t want to believe it because you already have your little narrow mind made up that you could never possibly be wrong about anything. You need to turn off all those leftist channels you are watching and think for yourself.

          • missythemissmiss

            Can you site your source?

        • William Edward Harris Jr.

          You are right missy, they want it all.

  • scott

    a liberal natzi piece of sh-t that needs to be elliminated from america.our founding fathers would shoot every liberal sh-tbag by now

    • Ken V

      Starting with Obama

    • The RedMan

      Well they would start wit U snake-mouth. and then 98% of the white-folks in the u.s. U stupid inbred.

      • scott

        all liberals are communist scum and their father is satan

  • Dudley DoRight.

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  • SaneZidane

    Socialism is a type of economy instead of the workers owning the facilities and tools for production, workers are paid and allowed to spend their wages as they choose, while the governing body owns and operates the means of production for the benefit of the working class that often results in poor production, mass poverty and little advancement because there is no incentive to achieve more.

    Communism is a type of economy where everything is owned by the working class and everyone works toward the same communal goal. Therefore, this type of economy often results in poor production, mass poverty and little advancement because the worker sees no additional benefit in incentive and no additional benefit for the common good.

    In capitalism, reward comes naturally without limitation to workers who exceed the normal minimums. When there is excess production, the owner can freely keep it, and he has no obligations to share his spoils with anyone else. A capitalist environment facilitates competition, and the result is unlimited advancement opportunity.

    There now, there is hardly a dimes worth of difference between the two socialist line of thinking.. They are like choosing a life sentence of being hung by the neck or shot by a firing squad. Capitalism will still work if the socialist/communist a coalition of political or special-interest groups would be done away with and let the economy prosper by providing the American people with incentives in the job market to improve their lot in life. It is there for the taking America.

    • Mark Sauck

      Great comment sane. The best definition of the differences between Socialism/Commumism vs Capitalism I’ve read. Can Liberals think this clearly? If they did they’d all go crazy. Wait a minute, They already are!

      • Dutch

        Sorry. He gave a description you wanted to hear. It isn’t based on anything
        approximating reality.

    • reagangs

      Winston Churchill, WWII British PM; Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. (Except the commie elites and their minions)
      Margaret Thatcher, recent British PM: Communism is OK until you run out of other peoples money.
      These guys know about communism today as most of the EU is/was socialist at one time and had/have a failed economy because of it.

      • Dutch

        The EU has a failed economy! I can think of a few whose economies are
        doing better than, say, ours. And perhaps you would like to discuss why half
        the world had (and many still have) those economies which have been skidding on ice for years. Here’s a clue. It is not because of the cultures in the MIddle East.

        Winston Churchill was a very well loved and respected through much of his
        life, especially when he was helping to win wars. When he decided to take
        over the role of governing elite, he was not quite so popular, and in fact
        last his last election. Maybe it was senility. Who knows.

        I’m heading over there (England) in about a month. I’ll ask around. I’ll
        find out for you just what is pissing off the Brits these days.

    • missythemissmiss

      You got a lot of that right, including: “When there is excess production, the owner can freely keep it, and he has no obligations to share his spoils with anyone else.”

      What you missed is that there will always be corrupt people in the world who will upset the free market, so it can NEVER exist. Capitalism in its pure form is no better than Socialism. We need regulated Capitalism, which is what Adam Smith wrote about in The Wealth of Nations.

      Half of us have been fooled into believing that government intervention is what causes poverty and the other half has been fooled into believing that government intervention is the solution. The workers must demand a fair piece of the profits of their production with the government to back them up. Therefore we must all participate in our government. Otherwise, this back and forth swing between wealth and poverty will never end.

      • cumiadom

        Only a lobotomized moron would believe that the government would help him. The government is never the solution. It’s the problem.

        • missythemissmiss

          Do you think that if we had no government mobsters wouldn’t enslave all of us? We must participate and take back control of the government, as was intended by our fore fathers. You might want to pick up a history book.

          • Geronimo

            In case you hadn’t noticed, mobsters have enslaved us, they just happen to work for the government. You can never stop evil people, every time you think you’ve won they change sides. They will not stop until they have control of everyone.

          • missythemissmiss

            Your comment is so true and so sad, which is why we must be diligent. I’m well aware that the mobsters own the government, as they did in the ’30s. What put our country back on track was a combination of war and high taxation on the rich. Apparently the wealthy have found a way to reap ALL of the benefits of war (I cringe to say that there might be ANY benefits to war). They no longer share the prosperity with the citizens whose kids they send off to die, as they fight to “protect” the interests of the wealthy in our nation. And they’ve brainwashed half the country to believe that if only they pay less in taxes, the rest of us will benefit in jobs. You are absolutely correct that they won’t stop until they control everyone and stupid people are standing by and defending them.

          • Howard Fisher

            I agreed on much of what you say in your post. But you have to understand that capitalism has nothing to do with a lot of what we are witnessing, capitalism can’t force you to buy what it is selling, if people choose to not buy the product it gets cheaper or it goes away. What we are dealing with is croney capitalism and fascism, or the regulatory state. We are in a state where many of our elected are in bed with corporations, you also have to include the federal reserve bank, its not one of our governments departments it’s a cabal of private bankers that own our money and regulate it. Take a look at one of your bills it says federal reserve note at the top. We can thank another great liberal democommie Woodrow Wilson for this. Go read it will make you sick. But you are right about the military industrial complex they tell our youth go army strong, the few the proud the marines and so on while they die and are maimed and the profits keep piling up. President Eisenhower warned about it in his departing speech.

          • missythemissmiss

            What you don’t seem to understand is that Capitalism always ends up in a Fascist form. Capitalism creates winners and losers, with fewer and fewer winners over time, which leads to Fascism. EVERY TIME. ALWAYS. There’s no way to stop this kind of corruption unless you limit the wealth of individuals.

            I would prefer to attach wages to profits, rather than tax businesses. The money would be distributed among those who contribute to the business, keeping it in circulation and preventing wealth to unfairly accumulate in the bank accounts of the business owners.

            Don’t be fooled that business owners work so hard, so they feel they deserve a much larger portion of the pie. If it was so hard, they wouldn’t do it. Let them go get a job, if they don’t like it. But, no you won’t see that happen, because they don’t want to live under the tyrannical system of Capitalism.

            Businesses must be a democracy, if we want to live in a free world.

          • Howard Fisher

            I have been in business for about 12 years and I can assuer its hard. Also a business can never be a democracy for so many reasons but ill give one example, have you ever heard the statement to many chiefs and not enough Indians? Point being when there are too many people making decisions there is nothing but chaos. Also capitalism only becomes fascist when government over regulates, capitalism itself cannot be fascist you keep confusing government regulation and free market capitalist economics.y

          • missythemissmiss

            Have you ever heard of a cooperative business? You might want to look it up.

            Free market Capitalism will NEVER exist due to corruption. Try to wrap your head around this. There will always be a business owner who tries to outsmart the competition by paying off government officials. This tends to cause others to retaliate and pretty soon you have a few corporations in power controlling the entire government. This has happened over and over. How do you propose we prevent this from happening?

            If business is so difficult, something is wrong. Either it’s poorly managed, corporations are monopolizing the market or the product is no longer in demand. Some people just can’t accept this, so they blame everything else. if a business can’t afford to pay a fair living wage, it has failed, just as much as if it can’t pay the electric bill.

          • Dutch

            Government regulation is there to protect the worker – primarily – and
            not the owner. And they even there more for the user of the product.
            Think “cars.” I’ll bet they are regulated to death. And why? To make
            the CEO mad? To make the stockholders mad? To make the cars
            safe on the roads we travel each and every day.

            And workers are given help (often lots of help) from abusive and/or
            irresponsible employers. I’ll let you come up with that list.

          • Dutch

            Grow up, will you. Do you know who votes for the people in office?

            Supposedly, you do? Ever do a background check on them? How
            about Trump? What do you think of him.

            Did you vote for Romney – spending his war years (Viet Nam) spreading
            the gospel in Paris, France. And hiding his income in the Cayman
            Islands.

        • Howard Fisher

          As the founder put a necessary evil

          • Dutch

            As the founder (which one?) put it – a necessary evil.

            What is a necessary evil? Maybe he was talking about an education.

        • Dutch

          Oops, not we are back to dumb again.

      • SaneZidane

        “Capitalism in its pure form is no better than Socialism.”

        YOU’VE GOTTA BE KIDDING ME! Capitalism is overly regulated here in the U.S. That is what is sending us into a downward spiral economically, thereby stifling individual achievement. We need to establish our competitive economical structure that allows for the working man to have a fair piece of the profits that they once held. Government intervention not necessary especially when government and corporate corruption is intertwined to the extent it exists today.

        • missythemissmiss

          What you don’t understand is that Capitalism always ends up this way due to corruption. It isn’t overly regulated Capitalism, it’s legalized theft. If you can come up with a way to temper corruption, you will go down in history as the person who saved Capitalism. How many times do we have to go through these cycles of inequality before people catch on?

          • SaneZidane

            Oh I do understand young missy. Please explain the difference between Capitalism corruption and Socialism corruption, If you believe that Capitalism here in the U.S. isn’t over regulated, then you haven’t lived long enough to know differently or just plain choose to know historical facts which many of us paid the price so you can berate the U.S. form of government that got you where you yourself are today. Freedom isn’t free. The U.S. with all its warts is still a model country where people in droves want to come here from around the world. How many Americas do you know that want to immigrate to another country to live?

          • missythemissmiss

            Thanks for the compliment, but I’m actually not so young. You’re making assumptions. Let me make an assumption: I’m guessing that you have a favorite news source you rely on, which makes you think that you have a clue.

            Actually, there isn’t much difference between the corruption of Capitalism and Socialism, except that Capitalism gives one person or one small group the power. Socialism puts the masses at the mercy of the government, which in theory gives the power to the people, except that it doesn’t.

            As long as we accept Capitalism as our economic model, we will repeat this pattern over and over. Socialism is not the answer, as it is really only a temporary solution to the bigger problem of corporate control. Cooperative businesses, citizen participation and a moral compass could be the change we need, but I’ll stick with my conclusion that Capitalism only works for a few.

          • Howard Fisher

            Again capitalism isn’t the problem it’s croney capitalism that’s the problem. Take Monsanto as an example they lobby what are suppose to be our congressman to get a bill written that eventually becomes law, now all farmers have to buy their seeds from monsanto they can now dictate price, if we were still living in a true capitalist state the farmers could go to another supplier and get their seeds from them and Monsanto has no power but because we have politician’s who are willing to get in bed with corporations we get croney capitalism, our system is rife with it.

          • SaneZidane

            Great statement Howard and quite factual and very descriptive of things here in the U.S. today

          • missythemissmiss

            What do you propose we do to end the corruption that Capitalism always attracts? ALWAYS. EVERY TIME. There is no such thing as a free market due to human greed and corruption. It will NEVER exist, which is why Socialism always creeps in to balance the disparities of failed Capitalism. Take a step back and look at the whole picture. Then, get back to me with a plan that works.

          • SaneZidane

            “…but I’ll stick with my conclusion that Capitalism only works for a few.”
            OK , but it worked for more than just a few for over 200 + years as we grew to over 300 million+ people. Can’t be all bad.

            “Socialism puts the masses at the mercy of the government, which in theory gives the power to the people, except that it doesn’t.”

            Therefore, socialism works for how many? Does that indicate how you go about living your life…in theory.

            You may claim a hold on knowledge of business, economics and global affairs, but you seem a little light on history. When has there ever been a government that wasn’t corrupted within itself. It then trickled down to the citizens through process of elimination. Mankind’s failures will never allow us to live in a land of utopia that you are evidently seeking. It’s not going to happen in this world.

            “Let me make an assumption: I’m guessing that you have a favorite news source you rely on, which makes you think that you have a clue.”

            I never made any assumptions to you. But you just did. Since that leaves me out, where does that leave you? I don’t watch NBC, ABC,CBS or FOX news. They no longer report news but instead, manufacture it. They are as corrupt and morally bankrupt as our elected officials and greedy corporate entities. Talking heads that bill themselves as experts are the most boring people on earth as are some of these internet blogs that have everything but good dialog. You want various news media and foreign newspapers, go to Drudge and take your pick. Much knowledge and different perspectives are put on the table for ones perusal. Having lived during WW II, I do have a clue. There isn’t that many of us around anymore. So if you are older than that, I say congratulations. If not then I can affectionately refer to you as young missy. Have a nice day.

          • missythemissmiss

            Um, first off, you called me “young” missy, which was an assumption that I’m young, perhaps insinuating that I’m also stupid. I tend to respond to people in the same tone as they address me, so don’t even try to back me into a corner. Just for the record, I attended college on an academic scholarship and was on the Dean’s List. This isn’t a pissing contest to see who’s older or wiser, so back off and stick to the topic.

            “OK , but it worked for more than just a few for over 200 + years as we grew to over 300 million+ people.”
            Pull out a history book and read a little. I guess the Drudge Report isn’t discussing how Socialist policies saved Capitalism after the Depression. I’m not a believer that Socialism is the answer and you will not find me saying so in any posts or comments. My point is to criticize Capitalism and its faults, so people like you will get your head out of the clouds and realize that it’s a failure. We can do better.

          • SaneZidane

            +Just for the record, I attended college on an academic scholarship and was on the Dean’s List.”

            Me too young missy, so don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back now. Oh how touchy you are for a self proclaimed educated person..You’re assuming again, not perhaps, but in reality. Stop cherry picking trying to bolster a losing position. I see you want to travel down the road by getting personal, huh? So be it. Other than the one that is on top of your head, what is your point? You’re backing yourself into a corner.Trying to paint capitalism as an evil venture when you put forth no viable alternative is not a winning position. Even responding to others you champion socialism as a counter balance to Capitalism. You can have your pet Unicorn and cuddle Puff the Magic Dragon all you want, but Capitalism is here and it is called reality. What system do you propose replacing it? Fact is my head is not in the clouds along with a majority of America’s citizens who believe in our Capitalist society. Fact #2 is you need to get off your high horse believing you are the world’s foremost authority. That title belongs to Professor Irwin Corey. You’ll have to settle for second bananas on that one. I realize that it’s hard for you to get the big picture when you have such a small screen.

          • missythemissmiss

            Your attempts to insult me are comical.

            Keep huffing and puffing your rants on the Internet and let’s see how this game plays out. You might want to listen to Professor Richard Wolff, just to be sure that you have a balanced view of the issue. You might also read Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations. Please read it slowly, it’s difficult to grasp even for those who claim to be well educated.

          • SaneZidane

            “Your attempts to insult me are comical.”

            It appears that they are working… mainly when they are quite apropos. Only thin skinned people would consider them rants. Your concentration on so called rants rather than address the question on issues proposed to you are subjective in thought only. . As far as I’m concerned, the game as you call it, is over. Take care and have a nice day.

          • missythemissmiss

            Again, nothing to do with the topic. More attempts to insult me.

          • SaneZidane

            BooHoo…cry me a river. You have shown little or no regard for interest, beliefs or attitudes other than your own.Your self absorbed egocentric attitude is insulting to common sense not to mention boring.. You left the reservation many posts ago. Stop me if you heard this before…”Take care and have a nice day.”

          • Howard Fisher

            I think that you seem to be seriously naive if you think that communist or fascist states aren’t corrupt, please!

          • William Edward Harris Jr.

            You are right, as well missythemissimiss is right also. Humans fallen state ruins everything all the time.

          • missythemissmiss

            Did I say anything about Socialism not being vulnerable to corruption? You are making assumptions and blindly refusing to address my actual comment. To criticize Capitalism doesn’t mean that I support Socialism. However, I support citizen participation and there lies the biggest problem.

            Our government and economy have become so corrupt and so complicated that most people don’t want to and don’t have the time to research the truth, so they have checked out. Those who read the headlines of their favorite news organizations are worse, because they think they know what’s happening. You cannot begin to grasp how deep and intertwined the corruption is until you study business, economics and global affairs.

            Therefore, we have those with special interests controlling all of our lives. The best solution at this point in time is for people to get more involved and to stand up for themselves. Capitalism puts the power into the hands of the corporation, Socialism puts the power into the hands of the state. Cooperative businesses would prevent both.

          • William Edward Harris Jr.

            You are right, human beings screw things up EVERYTIME. Period.

          • SaneZidane

            The point you are making then is what, JR…that you are Mr. Perfect or you are not of the human race. God knows that we humans have failed Him since day one. Would you then say that by giving man free will to do what is right a failure? He gave mankind the tools to do just that. but we, as a whole, just refuse to use them. So where do we go from there when solutions to corrupt governments have failed us here on earth from the beginning of time? There is one… we just have to believe and wait for it.

        • Dutch

          “Government intervention not necessary especially when government and
          corporate corruption is intertwined to the extent it exists today.”

          You seriously need to work on your thinking and deduction capacities.

          • Effenexes

            “”Government intervention not necessary especially when government and corporate corruption is intertwined to the extent it exists today.”
            Why do you think We the People are now up in arms, so to speak, this time around? Government and crony capitalism is on trial this time around. We’ve already seen that government will not police itself. Capitalism is not wrong, it is crony capitalism that is gumming up,the works. Now the people have awoken and intend to fix it.You need to go back to school…you evidently slept through civics class.

      • Steve Morandi

        Seriously? The government has tried this, and look where we are

        • missythemissmiss

          The government works for corporations, not the people of the US.

          • Steve Morandi

            Who in the hell do you think corporations are? I’m part of about 30. You probably are too if you have any financial sense. You people that think corporations are some kind of mythical entity crack me up

          • missythemissmiss

            Corporations have grown to be tyrannical monopolies that control our lives in almost every way. They were never supposed to be long-term entities. They were intended to be groups that temporarily formed to develop projects that individuals couldn’t. They were supposed to serve the community and to be disbanded when the project ended. Our fore fathers knew the danger, that apparently some people can’t comprehend. Read some history books.

          • Steve Morandi

            That is totally incorrect. You are aware the USA is a fully incorporated entity aren’t you? Venture capitalists provide temporary money to grow companies, not personal investors. Personal investors actually own a portion of the company and all have voting rights as to how it’s run, although 99.9% are too lazy or ignorant to exercise those rights

          • missythemissmiss

            If you’re going to keep up this banter, please specify what your comments are referring to. I’m wrong about what? That corporations were never supposed to be long-standing entities or that the major stock holders are a concentrated few? The 99.9% don’t vote, because their votes don’t matter, kind of like our political votes.

      • Steve Morandi

        It’s a nice thought, but it will never work. The government is trying, with their $15 per hour minimum wage.
        The problem is the government wants too big a slice of the pie. They are the problem

        • missythemissmiss

          Can you explain how a person working for minimum wage is supposed to be able to survive without government assistance? And please don’t spout off that they should get a college education, because many college graduates are working for minimum wage.

          I agree that government wastes our money and does not work for the people, but what you failed to address is how they have been hi-jacked by corporations and how they give them hand-outs in the form of millions of our tax dollars.

          • Steve Morandi

            They hand out nothing. The government just robs less from them. Why should the government take a bigger % of the profits of any business than the business itself? Most corporations make 4-10% profit, while government takes 20-30%. How is that fair?

          • missythemissmiss

            You are making assumptions about my opinions and you have limited thinking. I never said that the government should get more money from corporations, though they do give them hand-outs in the form of tax breaks and subsidies.

            I think wages should be attached to profits and I also believe that in order to really have an equitable society we must start with banning all inheritances. I don’t believe in hand-outs of any kind, unless earned.

          • Steve Morandi

            Banning inheritance?? So my investments I intend on passing on to my children should be given to who? The government? You’ve got to be joking!!

          • missythemissmiss

            Our fore father, Thomas Paine, suggested that since inheritances are relative to a birth lottery, we should put all estates into a fund to be distributed equally to the nation’s youth, so everyone can start out at the same place on the board. If you’ve been a good parent, that shouldn’t sound so threatening to you and your offspring. But, if you’ve spent your life making money and neglecting your kids, I can see how you might want to give them that hand-out, since they probably feel entitled and have emotional issues.

            My recommendation is that we take the estate fund and use it to give each citizen at say the age of 25, a certain amount of money (maybe $100,000) to put towards the purchase of a home to be used only for home purchases throughout the duration of their life. They can profit any profits from home sales and at the end of their life, $100,000 from the sale of their property goes back into the fund to be recycled.

            This would eliminate:
            1. Children having no aim in life, knowing that they will inherit a fortune.
            2. Family aristocracies.
            3. Parents who use money to control their children their entire lives.
            4. Children who resent their parents for abandoning them to make money.
            5. Family squabbles over money.

            Now, I understand that this will probably not happen, because we have created a money-grubbing society that measures success by greed. But, we are being taught a lesson by Mother Nature and if you don’t get it, I suspect that lesson will become more and more apparent in the coming years. Brace yourself.

          • Steve Morandi

            If that’s what you believe , welfare of all forms should stop immediately. You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth now

          • missythemissmiss

            There you go again making assumptions – and you know what they say about that. I don’t think Welfare is a good system at all. Though I don’t think we should leave children to starve because of their parents’ bad choices, I think single mothers should earn their pay-outs by working in a child care center one day a week, while they work for the people who pay taxes the other 4 days, perhaps in a government position. I don’t believe in free rides for anyone who is able to work. Get it?

          • Steve Morandi

            Why are they working for minimum wage? I dropped out of HS in 11th grade. When I retired I was earning 120K. Why could I do it and others can’t?

          • missythemissmiss

            You got LUCKY. That’s all. Some people win the lottery, too. Why can’t everyone?

            Some high-paid executives lost their jobs due to technology, some because of a bad economy. Your self-righteous attitude is a perfect example of another selfish, I-got-mine-so f**k-everyone-else jerk. If you really can’t see how so many people can’t find work that pays a livable wage, then there is no sense in furthering this discussion, because you are uninformed and out of touch.

          • Steve Morandi

            I got LUCKY? I had 6 kids to feed. I worked my way up the company ladder working 12 hour days, 6 days a week and that is LUCK? I’m sorry, but I can’t even take you seriously. You are in some kind of other universe. Good luck with your life, you’re gonna need this LUCK you speak of

          • missythemissmiss

            I call that bad parenting and poor choices. You had SIX kids that you couldn’t afford, so you had to work 12 hour days neglecting them. How smart is that?

          • Steve Morandi

            I afforded them just fine. Your IQ is showing now. Just put together the pieces of my past comments and you will figure out the secret to success. You obviously don’t have a clue what hard work and determination can get you. But I was just lucky. What a knucklehead

          • missythemissmiss

            I’m not talking about myself. I happen to care that everyone has a chance to succeed. I feel very lucky to have had the parents, the education and the opportunities I had. Not everyone gets those same chances and I happen to care about them, too. I also resent that I had to work so hard when others skated by on their parents dollar and connections. Life will never be 100% fair, but I hope for a world that isn’t so out of balance where some people feel entitled to gold door knobs, while others can’t afford health care.

            Your character is very clear.

          • Steve Morandi

            We were successful enough to adopt more losers like you can’t take care of

          • missythemissmiss

            Learn to write a complete sentence.

          • Steve Morandi

            One more question. You are on government assistance aren’t you?

          • missythemissmiss

            There you go again. What a clown you are. I own several small businesses and I work like a horse. I was born to poor parents and I have worked hard all my life with NO help from anyone.

          • Steve Morandi

            Sure you do. Bwahahaha. With your lack of common sense you may mow lawns if you’re lucky. Lol

          • missythemissmiss

            You should stop now, because you look like a petty fool.

          • Steve Morandi

            I’ve enjoyed the laughs. Happy New Year!

      • Dutch

        Now, I believe I have run into my first reasonable writer on this forum.

    • Holy Joe

      When everyone receives the same money for their efforts no one makes any extra effort and shoddy products result. See the old Peter Sellers Movie “I’m all right, Jack!”

      • Dutch

        At what point do you think that socialism is about all receiving the same money
        for efforts, no matter what they were.

        What an absolute joke. I was hoping to find some smart and savvy people
        on this site.

    • betilu

      LBJ was not for most of the people—–justified keeping the war going—-and lining his pockets!!! The people had NO voice about the was except the likes of jane fonda.

    • Dutch

      Wow, it sounds so good when you put it on paper. Now let’s talk about real life.
      First of all, write off communism and for that matter, your definition of socialism.
      Socialism, as the Europeans define it, and socialism, as we need so desperately,
      is the shared expense of things that are critical for us to survive and thrive.
      The most obvious things are food, shelter, education, and health care. Those are
      things that everyone needs and should have.

      Then there are those other things that are more complicated and more necessary
      as the society in which a person lives is more complicated. In my home town of
      less than 1000 people, police at every corner was just simply not a requirement.
      We needed much less lighting,fewer paved streets, etc. just simply because there
      was not that much usage. But certainly we need to share those expenses too.

      Where you paean to capitalism breaks down is that it does a whole lot more than
      facilitate competition. Compensation does not come either naturally or without
      limitation. For the exceedingly bright and competent, it works quite well. Those
      with great education and great societal background are miles ahead in the game.
      The ruthless typically are too. And so are those who are willing to play games
      to their advantage without consideration as to what is happening at the other
      end (a la Trump) also have a huge advantage.

      The most absurd statement is your last one – It is there for the taking. You talk
      as though you really believe that we are all on a level playing field. That
      everyone’s opportunities are similar if perhaps not quite the same. That is a
      big joke.

      And the differences can be very costly. The most obvious one is that poverty
      causes crime. Pure and simple. Being a guy of a certain age with lots of
      testosterone and little opportunity causes lots of crime.

      Other, more subtle things, are that those who “make” it feel superior to others
      and seem to think that they not only earn what they make but they also earn
      the adulation of others. And since WWII, I think it means that they are absolved
      from fighting for our nation, obeying the laws of nature, and manipulation of
      the rules that other people are expected to follow.

      One thing that perhaps you might want to consider is whether you want a
      rich society or a humane society.

      • Effenexes

        And a Partridge in a Pear Tree…Sounds that you are intoxicated with the exuberance of your own verbosity. I only extracted word for word from an encyclopedia that laid out the difference very commendably. It is with them your self appointed intellect would be recognize in the same manner … superficially deceptive but lacking real merit.

  • richardcancemi

    POS Communist SOB!

  • Webb

    Free,Free,Free…Utopia, Bernie, It just doesn’t Work!

    • Ken V

      Communist

    • Walter Flatt

      RIGHT, SOMEONE PAYS AND GUESS WHO, THE PEOPLE THAT HAS WORKED HARD ALL THEIR LIVES TO GET AHEAD AND NOW THIS GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO TAKE IT AWAY.

    • cumiadom

      But it does work. To con idiots to vote for him. Never mind the disappointment they will get after hearing there is not enough money to fulfill his promises. It’s wiser to ask forgiveness than permission. Didn’t Obama just did that with Hope & Change, Obamacare, Iran Deal, etc.

  • apzzyk

    Any one who has not dropped a glass or a cup at an inappropriate time has simply not lived. 35 years or so a ago a friend and I would go to happy hour, and he had a streak going of dumping a glass of wine into somebody’s lap, so I went to a baby store and bought him a ‘tommy tippit’ a cup with a cover and a round bottom, which our favorite bartender would have on the bar glass shelf for use for him and others with the same problem.
    Yes, Bernie’s proposed program would cost more, because the needs of the people are not currently being met by the do it on the cheap House of Representatives. For example, even with the VA Health scandle which continues ( is 18 month too long to wait for new partials, when you can get them the same week from your local dentist, because of VA backups?), Obama asked for $168B, the house went for $162B and the Senate went for $163B so it is going to conference and if the House has its way it will probably go down to about $150B, so can you treat move vets with less money per vet? My 100% VA disability pension will not cover that additional expense, so I may have to rob a bank. I am tired of eating greuel. and the costs of beans and rice have increased.

    • Walter Flatt

      OF COURSE YOU CAN TREAT VETS WITH A LOT LESS MONEY AND GET BETTER TREATMENT. CUT OUT BUILDING MILLION DOLLARS CLINICS IN EVERY SMALL CITY AND HOSPITALS. ALLOW THE VET TO GO TO ANY DOCTOR, HOSPITAL OR PHARMACY OF THEIR CHOICE. THIS COUNTRY HAS MEDICAL FACILITIES EVERY WHERE SO WHY SHOULD A VET HAVE TO LEAVE HIS FAMILY AND GOT 2 TO 3 HUNDRED MILES TO BE TREATED WHEN YOU HAVE TOP HOSPITALS WITHING BLOCKS OF THERE HOME. ALL VETS HAVE AN ID CARD AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THAT ANYWHERE. IT WOULD SAVE THIS STUPID GOVERNMENT BILLIONS AND ALLOW HIS/HER LOVED ONES TO BE WITH THEM IN THE HOSPITAL, OR DOCTOR.

      • apzzyk

        The reason for the whole VA healthcare system is to save the taxpayers money. All of its employees do not have to buy private malpractice claims with the Federal Tort Claims act, which I am currently using to collect for damages associated with my loss of vision in one eye, relieves the caregivers of that expense. They are also salaried employees which is supposed to give them income security, but for the past 3 or 4 years thay have not received wages. But the problem has become over about the last 35 years with the waiting lines to determine eligibility. They have been used by politicians beginning with Reagan to conceal the number of patients who are eligible but not yet approved from both the public and Congress, so if they are not approved yet, then there is no need to increase the budget for their care. Then there is the problem of not having clinics where the patients are. For example. the catchment area for the Cheyenee VAMC goes out at least 75 miles in all directions from Cheyenne, with me probably being the fathest away so when I have to go there I get about $57.00 in one-way travel expenses which is way up from the $1.49 that I got in 2002. So on dental, it would actually cost the system less for me to get my dental care in my home town, but the rules and regulations have not changed to take this into account. The Veterans Choice Act. which was passed when the scandal broke about 3 years ago, was desingned not to work. I am 37 miles from the Ft. Collins VA clinic where ‘gaming the system’ was first discovered , so it is from there, 37 miles away, that my distance is measured rather than from the dental clinic in Cheyenne. There are over 200K vets who are in the Denver VA catchment area, but at last report, less than 200 eligible because of this. All show and no go by Congress. When I was trying to get an appointment for my eye problem, I saw many vets, particularly the older ones like myself sent to the ER, where SS part A picks up the bill.
        The new Denver VAMC which is to replace the old one which has its origins with WPA, but has been added on to until it takes a guide to find the place of your appointment, was planned during the Clinton Administration, but since then medicine has changed a lot so the $3-4 billion planed for that time was not enough, but finally got started with the Stimulus, but then it is gone through starts and stops several times and contractors have actually gone bankrupt because of these – all caused by lack of funds – so this next FY there is anouther $625M for completion, which probably will not be enough.
        In my tort claim I want enough so that I can pay full price for care where and when I need it and just skip the VA entirely, but that is a big lump sum, so the claim has been denied at the administrative level so now 25% of what ever the court decides on will automatically go to attorney fees, which do not buy healthcare for anyone except the attorneys.
        One of the reforms that I have suggested is what you have – letting the vets get their own outside care until the backlog is cured – but that would cost more now, so it is better for us to die off to save the taxpayers money. Since you are a Conservative your comment would have more weight than mine. My Tea Party Rep will not even acknowledge my comments..

    • Jan

      It is not lack of money that is the root cause of the problems at the VA. It is gross incompetency and corruption by those who work there.

      • apzzyk

        If you will go back to Reagan and his demon – domestic spending the though was that government costs could be reduced by eliminating waste, fraud and abuse, and that included the VA. Prior to that the time between filing an application and having a result was under 30 days, more scrutinty was given to applications, but very very few were denied, but the waiting lists grew, as this happened, even though the number of qualified disabled vets increased with the Nam vets entering the system, but the number of caregivers did not grow proportionately and the ratio of money per vet appropriated did not keep up with the increased VA population., so by the time that Clinton took office the number of vets awaiting approval was up to almost a million and out of sight out of mind so far as Congress was concentned During Clinton, the number of pending applications fell to 500K – half of what he had inherited, but then congress was into passing Continuing Resolutions, so the budget increases fro all agencies, including the VA were held at the same rate or a rate which did not keep up with inflation. When I finally applied in 2002, because I had been given a medical 41 years earlier, my waiting time to get the usual automatic dor a medically discharged vet was very prompt, but was only at the 50% level, which I appealed, and it took 6 months before I was notified that my disability rating had increased to 70% which increased my pension, but did not increase my access to healthcare, even though there were many more vets in the systm due to more Nam vets along with the ones from the new wars, ao rhw number of patients per caregiver had increased, so to try to do something, they started evaluating caregivers by the number of patients seen rather than outcome – my primary care visits, went from 30 min to 15 min, and the practice of medicine by pill. I have had many adverse reactions and allegic reactions so I tke as few pills as possible, but compared to other of my age (76) I am very healthy. My cousin who has service connected Parkinson’s needs to have his meds monitored very closely, but his primary care giver appointments gradually slipped from monthly of now every other month. – Still just 1 primary care Dr. at the FT. Collins Clinic, with a doubling of the number of vets treated (/) there. ! dentist for we 100% disabled for a population that had doubled over the past 10 years – no room to expand – now it will take me 6 months to get my partials fixed – at Comfort Dental, it is a week. This year, after the scandel broke and the need for more caregivers became really apparent, Obama requested $168 B for vet health care – House did $162B and Senate went for $163B so how do you provide treatment to more vets with less money per vet?
        By law, the VA has to treat all of those eligible where a private practice can simply take new patients to replace the old ones, and so my father’s time with his private Dr. remained at the industry standard of 30 min, while mine had fallen to 15 min.
        Medicare was taken off the discretionary budget almost as soon as it became law, so that care would not change regardless of who was in office, while VA health care is still on the discretionary budget, so that limits its ability to hold care constant pased on the number and needs of its patients – the appropriation process has become practicing medicine by budget – a death panel. Vet suicides are over twich the rate of those who were not vets – problem for vets, but not for Congress who now seems to be totally focused on Planned Parenthood, and cutting the very small relative amount in taxpayers money it has been receivign. Should the living be given the same attention?

        • Jan

          First of all, you and your lib buddies need to quit blaming Republicans for everything that goes wrong in the world. You want to blame Reagan, but he only signed the budgets which were sent to him by the Democrat Congress he had to work with, so if you have a gripe with what kind of spending was going on at that time you can blame them. And it is not true that the VA budget has been slashed. In fact, according to the VA’s own figures, funding for the VA health system has risen every year for the last 10 years, and has increased from $38 million in 2006 to over $63 million in 2014. House Republicans have actually passed a VA budget that would increase the budget by 2.5%. The so-called shortfall in their budget only included not doubling the construction costs due to problems with the cost overruns of some previous building. In one case the cost overrun for a building was $1 Billion. The “shortfall” also included banning bonuses for top VA officials. In other words, they were trying to cut the waste, not cut the services. As for your Planned Parenthood remark, that also involves the living! Whether you view them as babies or not, they are living beings.

  • TBW

    Don’t confuse proglibsocommietards with facts.

  • JC

    Sanders is a communist—i would not want that guy within 2000 miles of our White House

  • Walter Flatt

    I GUESS THIS DAY AND TIME YOU CAN RUN ANY YOU WANT TO. HILLARY, BERINE AND OBAMA, ALL LOSERS TRYING TO TEAR THIS COUNTRY UP AND I AM A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT AND JOE WOULD BE NO BETTER.

    • Carolkitfox

      And you have brains, not following the lying DemoCRAP party just because they are Democraps. Used to be a good party but last 20-30 years they have gone to H. ending with Obama, the worst of them all and biggest liar among other things.

      • cumiadom

        D’RAT Party has been kidnapped by the International Communist or NWO.

    • missythemissmiss

      Both parties represent the wealthy. You are a fool if you think either party cares about you.

      • Geronimo

        On that we agree, one wants the government to control everything and the other wants corporations to control everything. Then they change sides, but it’s a zero sum gain. For example California’s SB277, a law driven by corporate greed and sponsored by socialists. We the people will never win until we have absolute freedom, where we are 100% responsible for ourselves with no safety net.

        • missythemissmiss

          I can’t agree that we could live in a civil society without some kind of order. The solution is for people to participate and to learn that if they participate in or ignore corruption, the results will affect them. I think there shouldn’t be so many bad choices to pick from, but a safety net would give people more freedom to pursue their passions. Like, Bill Gates, Donald Trump and Steve Jobs all had the safety net of their parents’ wealth. However, I don’t believe in inheritances. Divide that money up among the nation’s youth and let everyone EARN their own way.

  • Carolkitfox

    He is another moron, and as a socialist he is also a DemoCRAP. The Democratic party is now the communist/socialist Democratic party, and it has been proven over and over again, it doesn’t work according to our country’s way of life. Like Obama, he is living in la la land. NOT what this country needs.

    • cumiadom

      Sorry but I have to disagree. Sanders is an idiot commie but Obama does not live in LaLaLand. He’s just determined to destroy America’s Supremacy and Exceptionalism from within.

  • Austinniceguy

    Sounds just like Obluegums and Hitlery!!! I can’t help but wonder why they are all against working for a living and paying one’s own way? None of this works!!! Look at Greece and you’ll see what will be in store for us if this shriveled, old POS gets into office. And, if you think it’s bad with the 94 million members of the welfare class which includes the 12 million illegal cockroaches in this country now, wait until another IDIOT is running this country. They will open the borders and we will be wishing all this sh*t ONLY cost $18 trillion dollars. What we HAVE to do is first, get rid of all those cockroaches then, get all these lazy citizens OFF OF WELFARE and make them work for a living. “Land of opportunity” shouldn’t mean come sponge off of us. It should mean come work you ass off and reap the rewards of that hard work. Trump 2016!!!

  • Gretta

    The word “socialist”
    is a warm and fuzzy word for “communist”. The
    USSR was the Union
    of Soviet Socialist Republics. They are STILL communists to
    this very day with a dictator that gets richer and richer off the backs of his
    citizen’s slavery, as he gets more arrogant with his power every
    day. Our ignorant people have no idea what communism is and does to their freedoms.

    In communist nations, no one is free except the evil leaders. None of the
    people are free, and all of them are poor with no hope for their future
    changing. The dictator has total power and total control over the people, and
    the world is literally their oyster.

    So, why would these elite politicians campaign so
    hard to be president of the most powerful nation in the world, attack their
    opponents with a venomous, demonic, cut throat, and vicious feeding frenzy, and
    why would the “fundamental transformation” of America matter so
    much to them? They are desperate to win so they can force their power and control money making machine on the unsuspecting people they call idiots.

    This is a no brainer, folks! DUH! Just look how Putin operates, the Castro’s, the leaders of the muslim world, Hitler, China’s leader, and the creepy jerk in N. Korea. All of them are insane mad men, and you have them in power until they die, then they pass their throne over to their equally mad son, or another one just as greedy and evil as they are, or worse. It’s a vicious circle for the people with absolutely no hope of freedom and prosperity for them.

    Does our citizens have at
    least one brain cell to think with for themselves without mainstream media,
    liberal movie stars, and the elite politicians spoon feeding them what THEY want
    them to think? Why can’t our citizens SEE this? All they have to do is look at these communist nations, how poor and oppressed they are, their bread lines, their restrictions. Only the absolute rich have cars, own homes, any electronics, and eat decent, and the peon citizens are given only what the government leaders allow them to have.

    If we can’t see the two faced politicians smooth talking act, we are total
    and complete fools. The proof of their treason is in the pudding, we KNOW them
    by their fruits.

    It is the smooth talker who tells you what he knows you want
    to hear and will stab you in the back with absolute cold malice at will, while
    the honest person will never sugar coat and will be severely, and sometimes
    even brutally, truthful.

    If people take honesty and truth as rude,
    it is because we are so used to being fooled with the smooth talker that we
    don’t understand reality. Why wake up when our dream has not turned
    into the nightmare that realist’s keep warning us about?

    The politician’s secret truths will make people angry, and the
    elite do not want you angry, they want you pliable, they want you docile, they
    want you to obey so they won’t be stopped. They give you cell phones, freebies to shut you up to keep you docile and pliable, then they are free to go about stabbing you in your backs while you are busy enjoying your cell phone and sucking on your lolly pop.

    We outnumber them, but if we even
    “think” this, we are called terrorists, because they definitely do not want us to be allowed to be loyal to our
    Constitution. They don’t like or want our Constitution, and
    they must destroy it because it is the ONLY document that defends and protects
    our citizens AGAINST THEM because they want power and control over you so you won’t make waves for them as they continue their plan to fundamentally transform our free nation into a communist muslim dictatorship.

    No
    problems, the smooth talkers are convincing and they know what is best
    for us, which is classic communism, and is the sure sign of it.

    We will just keep on letting the elite socialist/communists think for
    us, no waves, and no problems for these bottom feeders. But if you should ever
    try to actually “wake up” and try to break away and want to actually want to make a decision
    for yourself for a better life for your family, see what it feels like to be the
    opponent of the dictator and his not so smooth talking regime.

    Hell hath no fury like an evil dictator and his evil regime who don’t want to lose their perpetual income and their absolute power and control over you.

    Hindsight is
    20/20 but you can’t turn back the clock. As long as you “obey” them and take
    what they decide to give to you, you can stay asleep in THEIR
    dream of absolute utopia.

    So, meanwhile they make nice to you, they tell you what you want to hear, and tell you that they are working for you. If you believe their puke, I have some beach front property on the moon that I want to sell you.

    These politicians are evil, they have spent us into oblivion to the tone of $19 TRILLION, refuse to secure our borders intentionally so that every evil can invade our homes, schools, and take us over, then they defend and protect those invaders and work with all their might to take our only defense and protection from us so we can’t fight back when the invaders do what they want to us, they seed our nation with these savage 12th century barbarians who vow to wipe us off the face of the planet to behead, burn us to ashes, so they can steal our land for their caliphate.

    Why would they do this to us? Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. When evil enters the soul, it rots the mind, and the only thing important to these politicians is money, more money, and power and control over the masses. The feel of power is contagious, and when it’s infected a person, the hunger for it cannot be quenched, it is insatiable, unquenchable, ravenous, they are aggressively predatory and anyone in their path are in danger, they are so bellicose that everyone is a threat to them.

    Keeping this in mind, any peon who wants to be free of their power and control are in danger. This is you and me, folks. Once these traitors have their foothold, have built their empire dictatorship, you are the slaves and the enemy.

    This mentality is the definition of a dictator, and this is what Syria has, all of the muslim nations have. This is what Russia has, this is what N. Korea has, and this is where we are heading for at the speed of light.

    Is it too late to stop this out of control trip to hell? God only knows, and since we have abandoned Him, I’d say we are in deep doo doo.

    • cumiadom

      Actually the only difference between Socialism and Communism is the method used to reach the power. In Socialism this is achieved by lying to the masses and getting their vote. In Communism, the power is achieved thru brute force. There are no other differences. Or like they use to say in Cuba, Socialism is a mixture of sand and dung. Communism produces so much scarcity than sand can’t be found to prepare the mixture.

      • missythemissmiss

        And Capitalism always fools the masses into believing that they actually have a say in the matter. Socialism is when the custodian comes in to clean up the mess that Capitalism created. Of course, the other option is to just let people die while the wealthy sit on piles of cash that they will never spend in their lifetimes, but which assure that their heirs will be given a free ride.

        • cumiadom

          Only the ignorant who doesn’t know what he/she ignores would say something positive about socialism. I hate to bring the bad news to someone so enthused about an obsolete and failed ideology but Socialism has utterly and miserably failed every time and everywhere it has been implanted. It always implode when they run out of other people’s money. Capitalism can survive without Socialism. The opposite is not true. Socialism is like a virus. It needs a host to survive. It’s a parasitic ideology.

          • missythemissmiss

            Capitalism always creates poverty. If you want to understand how Capitalism works, then play a game of Monopoly. If the game goes on long enough, there is only one winner who ends up with all of the money, unless there is redistribution. I don’t call that a great system.

            I have never said that Socialism on its own works, either. In fact, I don’t believe in hand-outs for anyone, but the sick and the elderly. But it seems the difference between you and I is that I think even the rich should have to EARN their money. Nope, I don’t believe in hand-outs, inheritances, or tax breaks. I don’t believe in rigged economies that siphon the wealth of nations into the pockets of a few.

            Let me know if you come up with a way to save Capitalism from itself without using Socialist policies to mask the legalized theft that Capitalist enterprises get away with.

          • Holy Joe

            Poverty is created by lack of intelligence, education, energy good health and sometimes even basic morality in the case of politicians anxious to
            exploit the excuses of envy, basic stupidity and sloth.

          • missythemissmiss

            I know a lot of highly educated people who can’t find a job. Are you going to say that they’re lazy or that they should work at Starbuck’s?

  • reagangs

    Remember Karl Marx and his Communist Manifesto, the former USSR (V. Lenin, Stalin and others), China (Mao), N Korea, Cuba (the Castro’s and their lieutenant, Che) and other murderous bastards (for the common good). Then there’s Hitler, the Fascist dictator that added to the Worlds problems. Today we have belligerent despots around the World that murder in the name of islam and communism. I helped fight communism in a far away hell hole in the late 1960s and I know how they think and what they can and will do. Neither communism or radical islam can or will coexist with the rest of the Free World. Freedom is NOT Free. US Navy vet, 1966-1969, HM2, FMF Corpsman “Doc”, Pharmacy Tech; the “Big E” (CVN-65), USS Repose (AH-16), USS Lexington (CVA/S/T-16), God Bless America, the most Exceptional Nation, ever, and don’t anybody forget it.

  • E Quilibrate

    Democrat=Socialist=Communist. There is ideologically very little difference by todays standards. Not what Harry Truman or John Kennedy had in mind.

  • used_to_be_a_liberal

    Is it possible that that the alarm bells are finally reaching the ears of those on the “left” are they finally waking up to the fact that “liberal” doesn’t mean Liberal. Are they going to keep on questioning, maybe, as we have this from Bill Maher; re: the kid with the “clock” that looked like a bomb

    The race-baiter Jorge Ramos chimed in with, “The reason for this controversy was precisely the color of his skin.” He even had the nerve to say that it would never have happened if Ahmed wasn’t a Muslim.

    “It’s not the color of his skin,” Maher corrected. “Somebody look me in the eye and tell me right here if so many young Muslim men – and he is young, 14, not that it never happened before — hasn’t blown a lot of s**t up around the world.”

    “For the past 30 years it’s been one culture that has been blowing s**t up over and over again,” Maher added.”
    Could this mean that real change is on the way?

  • missythemissmiss

    Did anyone bother to listen to the man? He clearly stated how he will pay for these programs. Tax Wall St. transactions and close tax loopholes for corporations or raise the taxes on those businesses. So much more could be done, if only people would stop reading headlines and think for themselves.

    • cutterguy

      where do you think the corporations wall street etc. get there money? from trees? or people who buy their goods and services? fidiot!

      • missythemissmiss

        So, let me get this straight… You think it’s okay that the average US citizen has to pay taxes on their utilities, clothes, property, gas and other necessities of life, but wealthy people who did little to EARN their money shouldn’t pay a tax when they conduct transactions in the Wall St. casino? You’re entitled to your opinion, but that doesn’t mean that you can read.

        • Geronimo

          No, I don’t think its okay that we have to pay any of these taxes. We should be able to live and earn in our own country without having to pay a bunch of power hungry fools in order to do so. We pay them to make our lives miserable. We receive no benefits, they can’t even do the one thing that they were created to do, secure the USA from invaders. That’s what it all really comes down to, can they protect the integrity of our borders, everything else that happens inside the US we can handle at the local level. We don’t need big brother for anything else.

          • missythemissmiss

            I have to agree that our federal government is run by crooks, but this happens every bit as often on a local level. There isn’t an easy solution.

        • cutterguy

          this is also for Geronimo. can you list me the subsidies corporation get? Don’t leave out the ones for liberal cause corporations, ie solar, wind or other green cos. Where do people get jobs? Name a poor person who ever gave out a job.

          • missythemissmiss

            Please, please read more. Pick up a book… Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations is a good start, though it might take you about ten times to grasp the concepts.

            Rich people don’t create jobs. Consumers create jobs. An economy that creates poor people is a failure, like Capitalism.

          • cutterguy

            How can you be this stupid and still breath? Typical libcommie/ Can’t support a point of view with fact so accuse every body with a brain short sighted. Read any thing from Limbaugh, O’Reily, Beck and a myriad of other intelligent writers. This conversation is over.

          • missythemissmiss

            You have the nerve to refer to Limbaugh, O’Reilly and Beck as your sources. I tell you to read The Wealth of Nations and you call ME stupid? Funny.

      • Geronimo

        Government subsidies. Closing the loopholes is only half the equation.

  • adrianvance

    Liberals are very bad at simple math.

    Google “Two Minute Conservative” for clarity.

  • Sean Rickmin

    This liberal is another Obama,only Obama knows how his” spend til you got no mo” ,then” spend what you don’t got”is destroying America.If you think that Obama is doing this to make our country better,”you a foo”.

  • Robert L. Passwaters

    If we go for free tuition for public college and University. well this decease the value the education

    • cutterguy

      in order for many to get passing grades, the standards would have to be lowered considerably.

  • cardmaster1

    Senile old fool!!!

  • charlie Hall

    dumb Fuk

  • mdrod1

    He is a STUPID DODDERING FOOL!!!!! ANOTHER radical scumbag SOCIALIST!!!!! I laughed my balls off when those idiots from “Blacklivesmatter” helped influence Sanders people to shut down his libtard event!!! In of all places!!! Liberal s–thole Seattle!!!!! Hahahahahaha!!! THIS is what the demonrats are putting up as a viable candidate for president???!!! THE DEMOCRAPS ARE STUPID AND DESPERATE!!!!!

  • Holy Joe

    The next thing he will come up with will be ‘Zero Income’ for any worker, but an assessment of what the worker deserves for his efforts in food, clothing and housing – anyone remember the Communist’s “Stakhonovite” Worker Program,

  • Howard Fisher

    People need to understand there is no such thing as socialism there is communism and fascism in reference to collectivism. Capitalism is not a form of politics or government! Its purely economic. Our government is Representative Republic, it’s not democracy the founders hated DEMOCRACY because it’s essentially mob rule. I think everyone should read the 5000 year leap and the road to Surfdom at the very least.

  • Howard Fisher

    People the best way I can see to end this discussion, is for everyone who works in the private sector is to set themselves up to be able to last a few months and then collectively quit. At that point this illicit government that we now have will fail, because it will no longer be getting taxes and it will be forced to prove that without a few people producing that this lie that collectivism works. Collectivism only works as long as there are people to steal from!!!l